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hkivan
07-01-2004, 11:05 PM
In directadmin.com intstallation guide , it said that the server must need to use global IP during installtaion process , but i also want to use our Sonic Wall Firewall ... Does it mean i can not use the hardware firewall with the server ( with directadmin CP )



Oh .. my god !

jmstacey
07-01-2004, 11:22 PM
Yes, as long as it doesn't act like a router and create internal ip addresses.

hkivan
07-02-2004, 12:09 AM
that mean i can not prevent DOS attack by hardware firewall .


Oh .... directadmin server is so dangerous

jmstacey
07-02-2004, 12:51 AM
On the contrary, there are firewalls which allow you to protect the server and yet allow the external ip address to be forwarded to the server. They act just like a software firewall on your server but without the processing power required of it.

nobaloney
07-02-2004, 11:25 AM
Most firewalls are not designed for webhosting.

To use your SonicWall firwall in a webhosting environment you'll need to either turn off NATting, or be able to NAT IP#s so the same IP# they're receiving the traffic on.

It's been my experience that hardware firewalls are relatively useless in a webhosting environment, because by the time you reconfigure them to allow unrequested data in on all the ports that require it, with no IP# NATting, you might as well just use iptables.

Jeff

hkivan
07-03-2004, 09:42 AM
but i really use sonicwall to protect our raq 550 server .
I use nat 1 to 1 method which mean 1 globle IP to 1 Lan IP .

You can limit the port service and the traffic in each port .



they help me to protect most of the DOS attack .

nobaloney
07-03-2004, 11:48 AM
RaQs work on private address space supplied by NAT on the SonicWall firewall.

DirectAdmin does not. And most likely won't; at least not in the forseeable future.

So if you can't either turn of the NAT feature for the IP#s you're using for DA, or place your DA server in what they call a "demilitarized zone" with it's normal Internet-routable IP#s, then DA and the SonicWall firewall are NOT compatible.

You might want to ask SonicWall tech support how to create a demilitarized zone for a webserver that must run in public IP space.

Jeff

hkivan
07-04-2004, 06:46 PM
sonicwall hardware firewall can not do this .


IN my memory , only one hardware firewall can allow public IP behind the firewall .
I can not remember the name .... but it is red box . something like ... [ watch guard ]

nobaloney
07-05-2004, 02:01 AM
How about building your own firewall, then?

There are lots of linux firewall distributions; even free ones.

And even some that run entirely from a floppy.

Jeff

hkivan
07-06-2004, 01:51 AM
Can u give my any hints or suggestion ?

I just know something kiss and apf .


Would you mind to give me some site or some download URL to me

finally , thank you very much

nobaloney
07-06-2004, 09:46 AM
You can find some Linux Firewall distributions here (http://www.hideaway.net/home/public_html/staticpages/index.php?page=20020515164949519).

They're stand-along linux distributions which you'd run on separate hardware.

Jeff