FreeBSD 8.0 - WHEN?

[Equand]

When will DA support Freebsd 8.0 64-bit?
The speed difference between 7.2 and 8.0 is HUGE comparing on a 8 core system...

[DirectAdmin Support]

Hello,

Debian 64-bit is just starting testing. Once it's on it's feet, then we'll start FreeBSD 8.

We're undecided if we'll skip FreeBSD 8 32-bit, and do only FreeBSD 8 64-bit (which would save us a lot of work). If FreeBSD 64-bit is going to be the more popular version used, then the 32-bit system wouldn't be needed.

Discussion/opinions on that is welcome.

John

[bjseiler]

Just go with 64-bit.

[interfasys]

I vote for 64bit only as well

[scsi]

There should be a 32 and 64bit of every os. Doesnt mean everyone is goign to have 64bit hardware for every install of 8.0.

[overmind]

But is ok with a 64 bit version first

I think most of us would preffer having a
7.2 - 32, 64 bit
8.0 - 32, 64 bit

instead of:
4.x, 5.x, 6.x, which still can be ordered.
(my opinion)

[ekaja]

64bit too
i want to use freebsd8.0 (64bit) for new server

:D

[eabris]

And is it possible to install everything from ports in the future? The outdated ports are a possible security risk and it's a nightmare to update them manually...
I'm fighting now with the upgrading of openssl, sshd, named...

[scsi]

None of those things are installed or managed by directadmin. You are on your own if you want to upgrade those.

[eabris]

But the requirements of those ports are installed by directadmin, like perl, pcre... and the installer can't find them.

[scsi]

Perl isnt installed by directadmin and I dont know pcre is. Those are all packages required for directadmin to run but not installed by it.

[eabris]

You are right perl isn't installed by DA but PCRE is by custombuild. And PCRE is a dependency by some of the ports so I can't install them.

[mmaxx]

To DA Support, the future is certainly 64bit, so Freebsd 8 64Bit. Anyone who wants 32bit can use DA 32bt for 7.x imho.

Over net speed diff between the two (7.2 and 8.0) is not that big.

The speed and capacity increase between accessing another 4gb of RAM and just having Fbsd8 32bt makes me lean toward the 64bit version.

I would be willing to help with the testing of fbsd 64bit...

[mmaxx]

PS: Surely one can run 7.2 DA on 8 Freebsd using the 7x compatlibs? This is engineered into freebsd and has worked in the past.

Has anyone tried this?

[scsi]

To DA Support, the future is certainly 64bit, so Freebsd 8 64Bit. Anyone who wants 32bit can use DA 32bt for 7.x imho.

Over net speed diff between the two (7.2 and 8.0) is not that big.

The speed and capacity increase between accessing another 4gb of RAM and just having Fbsd8 32bt makes me lean toward the 64bit version.

I would be willing to help with the testing of fbsd 64bit...

This is that nothing but opinion. 32bit should be supplied with each and every os distribution and version. Show me your speed analysis reports on why you think 7.2 and 8.0 are not any different?

[scooby2]

Waiting for FreeBSD 8.0 64bit here as well. Running root on zfs is working perfectly and 8.0 is much improved over 7.2 on heavy duty systems.

[interfasys]

So is 7x compatlibs working? Any ETA?

[rickelodeon]

I wish I knew this 24 hours earlier.

Yesterday I remotely upgraded my FreeBSD 7.1 server to 8.0, but after a reboot the system didn't respond anymore. I had to drive to the datacenter and solve the problem.

I had to rollback to FreeBSD 7.1.

FreeBSD 8.0 didn't understand some changes in the /etc/fstab (like usergroups)

[mmaxx]

You must be careful and double check the syntax of the files which freeebsd-update reports as being unable to merge automatically.

I've done a few upgrade "over the air" and it worked out fine. As its a major upgrade the only gripe is having to rebuild all the ports, but using portmaster or portupgrade this may be easier.

I simply made a note of the ports on the system then deleted them all and reinstalled.

[elvandar]

rickelodeon: There is an issue with the bootloader, or at least that struck me.
try adding GEOM_BSD and GEOM_MBR, GEOM_PART_BSD, GEOM_PART_MBR in your kernel include file. You can see how the syntax is for GEOM_PART_xxx (I forgot the exact name) , and hash out that line (Which is currently there).

In my case I upgraded to 8.x on a hetzner machine, and was unable to boot from it. Having a Lara remote kvm over IP available showed that the root was not found. After asking my peer-developers, I found out the root problem of this..

This might, or might not work for you =)

Cheerio,
R

[interfasys]

I'm confused by your post. Is this required to make DA work or are you just giving us a heads up in case we wanted to play with these variables?

[elvandar]

I think you mean my post? Hard to tell when you do not give a specific response.

with our without DA you can run into booting problems on FreeBSD 8 given that gpart is default there, and some people might or might not have that running already.

I did not have the proper setup at the time, and got bitten by it, on a machine not running DA. I can imagine that my DA system, which was setup only a month before, has the same problems. In my opinion it's better to share that information then to keep it to myself :-)

[interfasys]

Yes, it was in reply to your post :)
Of course, it's best to share :)
I was just surprised that's all, because I didn't have any problems, but I did a clean install of 8.0 using ZFS.

[elvandar]

My was a prestine installation of 7.x a while ago. My fileserver didn't have any problems, my webserver had, so people upgrading to 8.x and being unable to boot, please consider using my approach, and ALWAYS make sure you have a backup kernel available that you can use to boot up the system!

[interfasys]

For people wondering, DA seems to work fine on 8, with compat7x :)

[interfasys]

And now we even have official versions of some files :)
http://files.directadmin.com/services/freebsd8.0-64bit/

[ikillbill]

Hi

could we get a formal answer that do DA works good on FreeBSD 8.0 64 bit now?

[DirectAdmin Support]

Hello,

It's been quite a while since we've had any reports of issues. I'll move it out of beta.

John

[mr.applesauce]

Just make sure you install compat6x ... I noticed some issues before it was installed.

[mmx]

I have been using DirectAdmin on FreeBSD 8.0 x64 on a production server since July 12. No problems to report!

[davidwillson]

I vote for 64bit only as well

There should be a 32 and 64bit of every os. Doesnt mean everyone is goign to have 64bit hardware for every install of 8.0.

[leelika08]

64bit too
i want to use freebsd8.0 (64bit) for new server

:D

And is it possible to install everything from ports in the future? The outdated ports are a possible security risk and it's a nightmare to update them manually...