anyone down for starting a directadmin irc channel?

[vandal]

just wondering if anyone would be interested in this, lots of good support on this forum, be nice to move some of it to real time.

if so, suggestions on a network to use?

[sander815]

hmm, would be great :)

[vandal]

anyone else? i would be happy to setup an unofficial channel somewhere

[wdv]

sounds nice

[lesmak]

great idea

[vandal]

bump :D

[rumrugby]

anyone like to host it?

[nobaloney]

Originally posted by vandal
just wondering if anyone would be interested in this, lots of good support on this forum, be nice to move some of it to real time.
Is this a poll?

If so, let me be the first and perhaps only vote against it.

Why?

I have a business to run as well as a life. I can't and won't be held to answer support questions in realtime. I won't subscribe to an IRC channel.

I'll continue to offer help here (and/or on an email list) as time permits.

Jeff

[vandal]

it's kinda a poll. i mean it wouldn't be manditory or anything, just more of user based support channel (not an official means of support) just add another option to help people out.

"rumrugby: anyone like to host it?"

you do not 'host' irc channels.

[Shahid]

Good idea...

I recommend use IRCToo IRC Network (irc.irctoo.net) - it is not very busy irc network but it is very stable irc network... over 10 servers and only 1000+ clients online..

I have registered #DirectAdmin for you.

[jmstacey]

I think its a great idea, especially in situations where live communication would make troubleshooting problems much easier.
Of course it wouldn't be official and if you didn't want to help you wouldn't have to and you don't have to be there any certain times, just as you want.

[blacknight]

Why not use Quakenet?

[jep]

Hi,

I'm the biggest shellhosting provider in the Netherlands, able to host it for free :D.

I also have a preconfigured network, but if anybody has time to install an IRCD + services, maybe John wants to link irc.directadmin.com to that place. ;)

[blacknight]

Personally I'd be happier using an existing network such as Quakenet, as I'm already logged onto it 24/7 anyway..

[Icheb]

Originally posted by jep
Hi,

I'm the biggest shellhosting provider in the Netherlands, able to host it for free :D.

I also have a preconfigured network, but if anybody has time to install an IRCD + services, maybe John wants to link irc.directadmin.com to that place. ;)

Jep, is that really you ?
Uhhm, servicez.org, right :D

Didn't knew you used DA...


As far as the question: I don't know, already am online at 3 different IRC servers (idleing :D), perhaps for isn't a real problem. As long as the chan isn't invite only or something that needs me to do more than a /s irc.....com -j #<chan>. As said before: I need to earn some money by doing something usefull with my time...

[jep]

It's me. The one and only :P

[vandal]

yes an existing network would be best..like dal.net or anything where we do not need a bot to moderate the channel. (anything with authserv i guess)

[em0]

This is a great idea did anyone ever set this up?

[gcypher]

Originally posted by jlasman
Is this a poll?

If so, let me be the first and perhaps only vote against it.

Why?

I have a business to run as well as a life. I can't and won't be held to answer support questions in realtime. I won't subscribe to an IRC channel.

I'll continue to offer help here (and/or on an email list) as time permits.

Jeff


But what if random supporters can make the difference for you, they could even slve alot of problems which otherwise would be posted here and costed you also alot of time.

I understand you completely as i am in a same sort of situation, but i do believe that starting a channel (which we dont ask you to be on 24/7) but just for the visitors who come and people who like to share their knowledge helping others


after all, i DO think that is a great idea

[em0]

Just say where, Ill idle 24/7 :)...

[chatwizrd]

http://chat.directadmin.com

[blacknight]

Originally posted by chatwizrd
http://chat.directadmin.com

That's a really annoying java applet NOT IRC

[chatwizrd]

Originally posted by blacknight
That's a really annoying java applet NOT IRC

They provided a service for you. Irc opens potential for dos attacks and annoying flooders.

[jmstacey]

Well, I don't like the fact that you can login as anybody. To much chance for false representation.

[blacknight]

Originally posted by chatwizrd
Irc opens potential for dos attacks and annoying flooders.

I'm on several IRC networks all day every day. Java based clients are not user friendly imho and I would never use one

[Chrysalis]

my recent experience has given me more ddos attacks against websites then irc, if you act mature the chances of someone attacking you is slim.

given that I dont think anyone would be in a directadmin channel especially if no DA staff were there.

[chatwizrd]

The only way I can see if we run one is that it is ssl secure so that that it is alot more difficult to get bots on there.

[iceuk626]

I would recommend using IRC over the java chat system.. i have used irc for years and have never really had a problem, i have even setup ircd's with services and ssl.. even tho people think bots can be nothing but trouble they have there uses! i.e faq's directly pulled from a website and full help systems.

This must be worth a try .. don't you think ?

[chatwizrd]

Originally posted by iceuk626
I would recommend using IRC over the java chat system.. i have used irc for years and have never really had a problem, i have even setup ircd's with services and ssl.. even tho people think bots can be nothing but trouble they have there uses! i.e faq's directly pulled from a website and full help systems.

This must be worth a try .. don't you think ?

I am not talking about eggdrop bots I am talking about drones used specifically for flooding and attacks. Like I said "SSL" is the only way to go.

[em0]

almost all major irc networks now provide ssl service, I wouldnt see how ssl could be a problem at all.. I even run a small network I own and operate myself, and even I run all my serveres equiped with ssl, plus why would anyone really wanna attact a driectadmin channel? seriously... I doubt it would happen and if it did, there is several ways to stop the attacks or limit them if the channel operators know what their doing even slightly..

[GranTW]

On Quakenet a channel Op can request either L or Q ( depending on size of channel ) which help manage channels.

By setting the channel to +r this means a user has the register with the Quakenet server before being allowed to join the channel. This stops lots of spambots etc joining the channel.

Also with the use of L/Q you can easily ban people from the channel and by setting yourself as +x this gives you a masked hostname in the form of <ircnick>@<authname>.users.quakenet.org and therefore protects you from other users finding out your IPAddress/ hostname.

If people do want an IRC channel I believe using Quakenet would be the best option as many people are already connected to it for toher channels and it provides services like L/Q for free.

I would be happy to start a channel and help manage it as I am quite familar with Quakenet and on it quite alot.

Thanks,
Grant

[GReeK_RiDeR1]

You can come to my network guys my nickname is GReek_Rider
you join my server from our java irc witch is here http://ircs.gr/jchat/

And also By mirc /server psycho.ircs.gr

We w8 for you thanks :D

[djblackout]

/server freeleech.eu 6667 channel directadmin

enjoy ;)

[djblackout]

http://chat.directadmin.com



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Connection refused (111)
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[scsi]

They dont use that anymore.

[rjd22]

there is already a channle on freenode....

irc://freenode.net/directadmin

[scsi]

No one cares about irc...yawn.

[rjd22]

No one cares about irc...yawn.
if you can support that statement with a reliable source I will believe you but so far I take that as: "I don't care about irc"

[scsi]

http://irc.netsplit.de/networks

All you have to do is look...all networks are degrading over time.

Nevermind though I dont live in a third world country...I didnt just get this technology. I used it about 8 years ago when it was actually feasible.

[rjd22]

wow so you acctually make statements without thinking those trough? I live in holland... Doesn't sound like a third world country does it?

IRC is in my opinion the most recognised chat system for multiuser chat. I use it for PHP, MySQL, C++ and Linux development. If you want fast help and a good source for knowlenge you should take a look there.

[nobaloney]

IRC is no better or worse for me than other solutions. I'm just too busy to follow any kind of chat channel. The channel will work only if people with good answers and a good willingness to help will hang out there. That didn't happen when DirectAdmin (the company) tried. Perhaps things will be different now.

Jeff

[rjd22]

You'll never know if you don't try. Maybe I will ask if the staff could put up a link to the already existing channel on freenode so that people with irc will join.

[nobaloney]

DirectAdmin didn't have an IRC channel; they used software on one of their systems.

Jeff

[JoeK]

I run an irc network called irc.makaiwell.com :-), id be glad to host it or whatever. 8 servers, ~180 users per day.

[tlchost]

The channel will work only if people with good answers and a good willingness to help will hang out there.

Real good point Jeff. Another part of the equation is whether or not DA officially endorses the irc channel.

The forum appears to be a much more efficient venue since one does not have to be logged on constantly to read/respond, the questions and answers don't disappear as they scroll off the screen, and one can always reference a thread when the question is asked for x to the n power times.

Thom

[nobaloney]

Thom, you've just mentioned some reasons why I don't frequent IRC or other chat channels. Of course others may differ.

Jeff